In another segment of the podcast, Obama told Maron that Trump’s law enforcement tactics are un-American.

“That’s not who we are … that’s not our idea of America. We don’t want masked, you know, folks with rifles and machine guns patrolling our streets,” the ex-president said.

“You know, we want cops on the beat who know the neighborhood and the kids around, and that’s how we keep the peace around here. You know, we don’t want kangaroo courts and trumped-up charges. That’s what happens in other places that we used to scold for doing that.”